I got a question today: What is the authority for using "slight"
drag as compared to medium, or high drag? This question came up
after reading my page of instructions on how
to use a screw thread truncated set plug gage to set a screw
thread ring gauge.
While it is a valid question, the short answer is that it does
not make any difference if the drag is light, slight or heavy. The
specific amount of drag is really irrelevant. The actual amount
of drag will differ from person to person depending on an individual's
strength. Variations in drag will cause variations in actual screw
thread ring gage size, but similar variations will result from variations
in screw thread set plug tolerance. The net result is that the amount
of drag between screw thread set plug gage and screw thread ring
gauge need not be a defined amount, or otherwise stated, searching
for a quantified amount is really a wasted effort. The basic idea
is that there is some drag.
When manufacturing screw threads, the idea is to stay at the mean
of the product tolerance. If you are having discussions about amount
of drag, it is because it is affecting the measurement results.
Basically; you are working too close to the product tolerance. What
is usually the case is that there are two screw thread ring gages
involved, one rejecting the part and one accepting the part. When
that happens, people try to ferret out the reason. Too much effort
here is also a futile.
First, look at the screw thread ring gages and assure that both
are considered: in-tolerance. If that is the case, then ANSI/ASME
B1.2 paragraph 2.2.1 becomes relevant. In summation it states:
Because of the limits of tolerances in measurement instruments,
when two calibrated screw thread gages measure a part, and one screw
thread gauge fails the part but the other screw thread gage passes
the part, the part is to be considered: GOOD.
If you must have two screw thread ring gauges which are considered
'identical' then there are two things that you can do to make this
nearly a reality:
1. Overkill: Order them from the same screw thread gage maker, stipulating
that they be made in the same lot, and set on the same screw thread
set plug gauge by the same person, on the same day. You should also
supply the screw thread set plug gage or purchase one with the screw
thread ring gauges.
2. Best: Take existing screw thread ring gages and have them
set on the same screw thread set plug gauge by the same person,
on the same day.
3. Practical: If they cannot be set on the same set plug gage; then assure that both ring gages are set on Class-W master plug gages.
All that said, but still: By what authority do we use the term
slight, and what does it mean?
The term 'light' drag is used in ANSI/ASME
B1.2 in Appendix A to describe the feel for solid-style, or
master-setting, screw thread ring gauge. The Federal
Standard H28, Section 6A uses the term 'snug' fit for setting
adjustable screw thread ring gages. In the screw thread gage industry,
the term 'slight' drag is defined as the amount of drag which will
allow a person to turn the screw thread ring gauge smoothly, but
not spin it freely.
This is my personal opinion: The setting of the ring gage to the set plug gage is to be a metal-to-metal fit. The screw thread ring gage should be set on the master plug gage with "grunt". By this I mean, without using tools, having the set plug oiled, apply enough force that the person setting the gage must grab and turn forcefully to move the ring gage along the set plug. This differs from the force needed to test a part with the thread gage which should not exceed finger pressure. When testing the part the GO ring gage does not need to spin onto the part, but can be applied with some drag which can be overcome by a person using two fingers only to turn the screw thread ring gage.
I hope this discussion has helped settle whatever gauge debate
you are having. If you need to discuss this further, contact Wayne
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Original Posting: 1/18/2010
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